Monday, April 09, 2012

Christians United For Israel: One Million Bats

"The floor of the cave has been on the phone, it wants its batshit back." - Bill Maher

Just a short piece on the crazy, Christians United For Israel, who, if they are to be believed, have just recruited to the bat cave, their one millionth bat.

What's with all the bats you say? Well really you have to go back to my July 2007 post, Beyond Belief: Rapture Ready by Max Blumenthal to truly appreciate the batshit.

Rather than send you off to that post, I have brought the whole thing over here and it is now pasted below. And where below I say, Blumenthal's film is an absolutely must watch, I mean it's an absolute must watch.

Drive on!

Delusional Milestone
By Lawrence Davidson
April 08, 2012

Pastor John Hagee’s Christians United For Israel (CUFI) announced the “registration of their millionth member” on 18 March 2012. This organization, founded in 2006, with the goal of “realizing the political potential of tens of millions of evangelical Americans who support Israel” can also be said to have the goal of destroying, in the name of God no less, the legitimate political aspiration of Palestinian statehood. And, the CUFI now has as much influence with our Republican Congress as does the Jewish Zionist lobby, AIPAC.

Why should the devout Mr. Hagee and his one million followers be so enamored of Israel? Actually, they have no rational reasons to offer. However, they do have a number of non-rational ones. For example, “We support Israel because all other nations were created by an act of man, but Israel was created by an act of God.”

Hagee and his followers do not know that this is so. They just ardently believe it is so. Yet there is a difference between demonstrable fact and belief. As to subject, ardent belief, or what might be called faith, is widely variable and changes over time. Thus, for a considerably longer period of time than the life of Hagee’s particular brand of Christianity (in fact for thousands of years) vast numbers of people ardently believed in the reality of the Olympian Gods. For almost 1200 years, countless individuals, every bit as assured of their faith as Pastor Hagee, came to the shrine at Delphi to prey to Apollo and, through his oracle, the Sibyl, petition for the God’s advice and favor.

There is no more hard evidence for Hagee’s faith than that of the Sibyl. Think of the lottery. Despite people’s belief in their “lucky number,” every number has an equal probability of turning up. In the same way, when John Hagee dies he has an equal chance of finding himself on the shore of the River Styx as he does at the gates of heaven or hell. Of course, this comparison is not completely accurate. Here there is also the equal chance that no number turns up at all, and Mr Hagee simply dissolves into worm food.

Just so there is no hard evidence for the claim that Israel was created “by an act of God.” (As to modern Israel there is no historical doubt that the deed was done by a combination of Jewish militias, the British Empire, and the General Assembly of the United Nations.) The Bible stories are just that, stories, and quoting them as if they constituted evidence beyond the realm of faith just won’t do.

No one credits the stories told in Hesiod’s Theogony (the story of the origin of the Olympian Gods) as proof positive of the existence of the Zeus and Apollo. Pastor Hagee would counter that the Theogony was “created by an act of man”while the Bible is, allegedly, the divinely inspired words of God. And, indeed, it appears that up to one-third of the adults in the United States agree with him. Unfortunately, it is quite possible that as many people now believe in the literal, divine truth of the Bible (and therefore the divine origin of Israel) as once believed in the reality of Zeus and his Olympian clan.

However, yet again, belief no matter how ardently held, does not make something true. And, it does not matter if it is the belief of one person or a million. The situation is the same. Faith is not the same as fact.

Unfortunately, this does not put an end to our subject. Faith may not move mountains but it can move the masses. It can move Hagee’s million and many others as well to actions that are very real indeed. It can move people to empty their wallets in an effort to financially support their alleged certainties. Worse yet, it can move them to take up arms and slaughter their neighbors–or at least cheer on others who do so.

I have a strong suspicion that if the Israelis some day evict every last Palestinian from Pastor Hagee’s “Holy Land,” killing thousands in the process, the pastor will shout Hallelujah and salivate in anticipation of the second coming of Christ. It is just a personal opinion, mind you, but if you believe so strongly that you are willing to underwrite murder and mayhem you constitute a real danger to world peace. As such you should be preaching your defense before the International Criminal Court rather than preaching to the multitude. ICH

Professor Lawrence Davidson - Department of History - West Chester University

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Beyond Belief: Rapture Ready by Max Blumenthal




Once a flood, pray excuse the analogy, someone comes up with the goods, that were it not on film, it would be beyond belief, stunningly beyond belief.

Blogger Max Blumenthal has come up with such goods in the form of a short film entitled, Rapture Ready: The Unauthorised Christians United for Israel Tour.

I will let Blumenthal give his own introduction, but the film is an absolutely must watch. I should and would write further if I were not truly lost for words after witnessing the goings on in this asylum.

Truly, Only In America.



On July 16, I attended Christians United for Israel's annual Washington-Israel Summit. Founded by San Antonio-based megachurch pastor John Hagee, CUFI has added the grassroots muscle of the Christian right to the already potent Israel lobby. Hagee and his minions have forged close ties with the Bush White House and members of Congress from Sen. Joseph Lieberman to Sen. John McCain. In its call for a unilateral military attack on Iran and the expansion of Israeli territory, CUFI has found unwavering encouragement from traditional pro-Israel groups like AIPAC and elements of the Israeli government.

But CUFI has an ulterior agenda: its support for Israel derives from the belief of Hagee and his flock that Jesus will return to Jerusalem after the battle of Armageddon and cleanse the earth of evil. In the end, all the non-believers - Jews, Muslims, Hindus, mainline Christians, etc. - must convert or suffer the torture of eternal damnation. Over a dozen CUFI members eagerly revealed to me their excitement at the prospect of Armageddon occurring tomorrow. Among the rapture ready was Republican Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. None of this seemed to matter to Lieberman, who delivered a long sermon hailing Hagee as nothing less than a modern-day Moses. Lieberman went on to describe Hagee's flock as "even greater than the multitude Moses commanded."

Throughout CUFI's Israel Summit, videographer Thomas Shomaker and I were hounded by PR agents seeking to prevent us from interviewing attendees about the End Times. The conference, we were told, was about "one message" - evangelical Christians supporting Israel. We were instructed to only interview CUFI leaders capable of sticking to the talking point that their support for Israel has, as Hagee declared, "nothing to do with the End Times." But I was forbidden from asking Hagee about statements he made in his book, "Jerusalem Countdown," that appeared to blame Jews for their own persecution. After doing just that during a press conference, I was removed from the conference by off-duty DC cops summoned by members of Hagee's family.

I have covered the Christian right intensely for over four years. During this time, I attended dozens of Christian right conferences, regularly monitored movement publications and radio shows, and interviewed scores of its key leaders. I have never witnessed any spectacle as politically extreme, outrageous, or bizarre as the one Christians United for Israel produced last week in Washington. See for yourself. Max Blumenthal

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11 comments:

Anonymous said...

John Hagee and God
http://bit.ly/IeSkCH

Anonymous said...

Pastor John Hagee – Cornerstone Church Ministry, Heresy, Divorce & Dirty Deeds
http://bit.ly/14liSg

April 8, 2012
William says:

It’s amazing! The same people on here who say for us to not Judge this poser John Hagee will be the same ones hollering the next day that President Obama is a Muslim lol.. Got to love the hypocrisy that is called religion. Hagee is a devout adulterer and a thief in the real world and that’s exactly what I’m judging him by on THIS earth!

Himself said...

Jimmy Swaggart

http://youtu.be/czk3KqThfVE

And I have just added Hagee to my Gor Blimey Hall of Fame

“All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that.” – John Hagee

Himself said...

John Hagee and God
http://bit.ly/IeSkCH

I can't get a connection. Slow server?

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/IeSkCH
shortlink of
http://www.jeffersoncorner.com/john-hagee-and-god/#more-630
blog Sami Jamil Jadallah, On My Mind
It takes long time for the page to appear.

same article on other sites
http://bit.ly/Hqo6tb
http://bit.ly/Hn5DPr

Himself said...

Thank you.

I guess everyone has a right to make a fool of themselves, but to make a fool of over One Million.....

Anonymous said...

http://bit.ly/W7WH43

Anonymous said...

John hagee is a COWARD HYPOCRITE that NEVER SERVED in the U.S. Military, and neither has ANY of his FIVE SONS... Yet he stays awake at night, trying to come up with ways to pressure our government leaders to attack Iran... Israeli jews are NOT the same jews as those in the Old Testament that were RIGHT with God.. No, todays jews are satanists... EVIL people that REJECTED and killed Jesus Christ..!! The money that John hagee gives to israel is spent on bombs that are in turn, dropped on Palestinian CHRISTIANS... Hagee gives money to the devil's kids, who turn around and torment God's kids with weapons it buys from that.. Hagee needs to be EXPOSED for the FAT, GREEDY, LYING, COWARD, FALSE TEACHING HERETIC that he really is..!!!

Anonymous said...

** CORRECTION ** In my post (of August 16, 2013) i stated that John Hagee has Five "SONS".. That was what i remembered him saying, in one of his sermons, over 15 years ago.. Recently, i went to a website, that showed hagee has five children, but only 2 of them are "BOYS", and the other 3 are females. Still, i would be willing to bet a dollar to a dime, that NEITHER of hagees two BOYS have served or ever will serve in our military.. We NEED to BRING BACK THE DRAFT, NOW..!!!! That way, all the WARMONGERERS like hagee will think twice, before they beat the war drums, to fight israel's proxy wars...!!!!

Anonymous said...

"One day after i am long gone, you will remember me and say, we should have stopped the nuclear program of Israel, abolished the Federal Reserve and kicked all secret societies, occultists, usurpers and Zionists out of our wonderful country, to keep it that way, but it is never too late, just remember that".. John F. Kennedy

Himself said...

Is this you Chuck?